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Prude side in now truly Clothing Optional?
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We are old time nudists and the Hedo website promotes the resort as a Clothing Optional resort. It was our understanding that the so called "prude" side had become Clothing Optional, meaning that we could walk in our birthday suit from the room to the beach and around the gardens and to the nude pool if we were staying on the prude side. I sent this question to the reception by email and got a surprise answer that says that we had to remain clothed all the time if we were located in the prude side. We are confused between what the official site says and the answer we got from the receptionist. Please, help us clarify this question.
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I guess it depends on what day it is. The resort is not clothing optional as you cannot freely walk around the resort , as a whole, in the nude. The prude beach is clothing optional, some people who stay on the prude side do walk to and from the beach in the nude and of course you can walk the entire beach in the nude. I expect you may get different answers from others. Enjoy hedo if you do decide to go.

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Thanks for your reply. Here is what it says in the official Hedo site:
"At Hedonism II, we offer accommodations on both sides of our lush, oceanfront resort in Negril, Jamaica. Our “Nude” category features Garden View, Ocean View, and our new, fully renovated Premium Rooms located on our nude side of the resort. Our “Prude” category features Garden View and Ocean View rooms located on our quieter clothing optional beach and gardens. Guests of either category are welcome on both sides of the resort. However, nudity is not permitted in the main public areas."


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Thanks for your reply. Here is what it says in the official Hedo site:
"At Hedonism II, we offer accommodations on both sides of our lush, oceanfront resort in Negril, Jamaica. Our “Nude” category features Garden View, Ocean View, and our new, fully renovated Premium Rooms located on our nude side of the resort. Our “Prude” category features Garden View and Ocean View rooms located on our quieter clothing optional beach and gardens. Guests of either category are welcome on both sides of the resort. However, nudity is not permitted in the main public areas."



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We were just there and stayed in a prude side room We just wrapped a towel around to go to the beach. Some folks walked to the beach nude and I doubt anyone would say anything. You do need to cover up to eat at the prude grill on the clothing side beach. Everyone must wear a top in the dining room and restaurants. A bare chested man who came to see someone in sales was sent back to his room to get a shirt.

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I suspect the No Nudity in Public is all about controlling Hedo's image to the outside world. Anywhere the general public can see in (prude side rooms near the road, front desk and loading areas, main dinning room, etc) are being pruded up a little to cut down on complaints. Overall I don't think the resort cares, but they have to live with the neighbors in a country that is not as tolerant as we think they are.


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We saw many people walking naked from their rooms on the Prude side without any problems. There were people sunbathing nude on the c/o beach all day long, too. I think a lot of couples go there when one wants to go nude and the other doesn't.


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We got a kick out of the note on the back of our restaurant reservation card:

DRESS CODE:NO NUDITY this means no exposure of breasts, genitalia (male or female) or posterior. This is not a need for us to be modest but instead for us to be compliant with HACCP and other safety laws governing the country.

This is a dress code unlike any other restaurant were we have eaten!

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Thanks everyone for your help. I just got confirmation from the reception that the entire hotel now operates as a Clothing Optional resort with the exception of the nude area where nudity is mandatory. Of course the main public areas are off limits for nude people.


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LOL. Personally, I've never been turned away from the main dining room in 100+ times I've been bare chested. Nor have we seen any women sent packing for same.


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I've been asked to return with a t-shirt on. Had forgot to pick one up after my dive and back I had to go to my beach lounger to pick one up.

I can see the point as it is for food sanitary purposes.


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Last month I specifically asked Harry (the owner) and he assured me that the prude side is officially c/o, exceptions being the public areas: the restaurants and store areas.

Dave

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We were there last month. We were in lobby waiting for Delano. Old guy (well, my age) shows up to verify trips. He had won for most visits since last winning. Delano sent him back to his room to get a shirt. The guy apologized and left to get his shirt.It seems they are enforcing some rules.

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Rules, schmools...

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In 29 trips I'd never been in the office area, where Delano works, and last month I went there without a shirt. He gave me a towel to put around my neck.

That rule is just for the offices, and apparently isn't new.

Dave


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You guys make me laugh, expecting some sort of coherent rule and enforcement system at Hedo. Everything changes, week by week, day by day, minute by minute. I think it's a Jamaican thing.

Always reminds me of that line from Butch Cassidy: "Rules? In a knife fight?"

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Originally Posted by davew
We got a kick out of the note on the back of our restaurant reservation card:

DRESS CODE:NO NUDITY this means no exposure of breasts, genitalia (male or female) or posterior. This is not a need for us to be modest but instead for us to be compliant with HACCP and other safety laws governing the country.

This is a dress code unlike any other restaurant were we have eaten!


I'd like to know what restaurants you frequent!


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Our local restaurants may require shoes or shirt or even jacket or tie, but none have felt the need to mention that you need to keep your genitalia covered.

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Does this mean his and hers matching pasties and a tutu are no longer suitable for the Hedo dining room? We loved when our friend from Boston wore nothing but a long men's dress shirt and then just as he was leaving the dining room he stretched his arms above his head to reveal the most amazing genitalia. When we first dined with our friends from California, Fiji kept saying "Your breast is slipping out of your outfit". After awhile I think he figured out this wasn't a wardrobe malfunction! This post also reminds me when a few trips back, I asked some fellow guests at what point on the walkway on our way back from the nude pool to the prude side should we put our clothes back on? They just laughed !! I just loved our shy friends one trip (retired navy guy who would sneak over to visit us after his wife fell asleep, to imbibe in the herb) who were very committed to keeping their clothes on at all times but delighted us with their friendly greetings when they ran into us naked and laughingly insisted that we would make them go blind !! They loved it when my husband dared me; I pressed my naked breast against the window where they were dining at Martinos....and now ofcourse it is endlessly amusing to press up against the window with our new friends who are in the piano bar when we are on the smoking deck and visa versa.

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Last week, see-through mesh dress was no problem in RastaPasta. Dining room attire was the same as always.

Overabundance of guard duty in the "remove your clothes" department on the nude beach. It became so tedious for folks who are normally naked. I didn't notice any gawkers this last week.


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Thanks everyone for your inputs. (By the way, Chris, I just bought your book in Amazon and started reading it. Great work and thanks for sharing all the details.)
Now that the "prude side" is officially CO, nudists should start claiming those areas as well. We booked a room on that side and are planning to use it for nude relaxation and quiet conversation with other likeminded people. And of course, for the party time, we will go over the nude side without having to carry anything with us, well perhaps a towel and that's it. Dona, the Hotel Manager, was very kind and explained to me that the resort is being marketed as Clothing Optional or as the only true Nudist Resort in Negril. That's a clever move since the options for the nudist community are becoming slim especially for the mixed couples where some like to go Full Monty and the other half wants to keep some partial clothes. Also is the perfect setting for first time wannabe nudists since they can take it at their own pace. And most important for mingling together textile and nudists on the beach and pool, something that wasn't possible before since the nude side requires to be totally naked. Again, we appreciate your help and can't wait to visit Hedo for first time.


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Dona, the Hotel Manager, was very kind and explained to me that the resort is being marketed as Clothing Optional or as the only true Nudist Resort in Negril.


Before they can market themselves as the only true nudist resort in Jamaica, they have to allow nudity EVERYWHERE including the dining room and lobby as Caliente does.

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I don't mind that the resort isn't completely nude.
It makes it easier for a first-timer to get used to the place, it allows Hedo to present a "cleaner" image to the outside world (perception is so important now), and on those days where I've over done it [sun burn or hangover] I can find a spot where I can keep my cloths on and relax without feeling out of place. sleep


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One thing that really irritated me last week Chris; was when a group of 3 women and 1 man/boy turned up at the nude beach, with the women in full bathing suits and the boy in trunks; they appeared to be locals.

The security guard approached them as they went to the grill and had a conversation, which ended with him looking at his watch - indicating he was giving them a time limit to be there. They got drinks from Delroys - constantly looking around, pointing and giggling - and then went to the grill. They did not just order food, but stood at the grill counter to eat their meal. They were causing both irritation and embarrassment to other guests. The guard did nothing; unlike their jumping on people who had been nude and who just put on a t-shirt to cover burnt skin i.e. obviously not gawkers.

Seeing the effect this was having on other guests, I went over and spoke to them, mainly targeting the male member of the group of 4. I was very polite, explaining that we did not expect people to 'dress for dinner' and that we, in fact, preferred them not to. They were a little cocky and rude in their response; I then - a little more firmly - asked them to disrobe or leave, explaining they were upsetting other guests. They did - the security guard just kept his head down.

A day later, the young man reappeared at Delroys with his trunks on, with no intervention from security, and I was asked by a couple of female guests to ask him to leave. I did speak with him and asked him to 'be the same as everyone else' and remove his shorts. He refused and tried to get aggressive. He then reassessed the situation and, having realised he had no back up, made a speedy exit.

I did find it frustrating that people could be naked all day, then get jumped on if they put on a covering to avoid sun damage, even with genitalia fully on display; yet those who were - obviously - gawkers - were given a free ride.

It is a new security company and, perhaps, some instruction as to the point and intent of the 'you must be nude' rule - to stop the gawker - and some advice about common sense might help!!

I do wonder why this group of four were given a free ride though....

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Originally Posted by Truck
One thing that really irritated me last week Chris; was when a group of 3 women and 1 man/boy turned up at the nude beach, with the women in full bathing suits and the boy in trunks; they appeared to be locals.

The security guard approached them as they went to the grill and had a conversation, which ended with him looking at his watch - indicating he was giving them a time limit to be there. They got drinks from Delroys - constantly looking around, pointing and giggling - and then went to the grill. They did not just order food, but stood at the grill counter to eat their meal. They were causing both irritation and embarrassment to other guests. The guard did nothing; unlike their jumping on people who had been nude and who just put on a t-shirt to cover burnt skin i.e. obviously not gawkers.

Seeing the effect this was having on other guests, I went over and spoke to them, mainly targeting the male member of the group of 4. I was very polite, explaining that we did not expect people to 'dress for dinner' and that we, in fact, preferred them not to. They were a little cocky and rude in their response; I then - a little more firmly - asked them to disrobe or leave, explaining they were upsetting other guests. They did - the security guard just kept his head down.

A day later, the young man reappeared at Delroys with his trunks on, with no intervention from security, and I was asked by a couple of female guests to ask him to leave. I did speak with him and asked him to 'be the same as everyone else' and remove his shorts. He refused and tried to get aggressive. He then reassessed the situation and, having realised he had no back up, made a speedy exit.

I did find it frustrating that people could be naked all day, then get jumped on if they put on a covering to avoid sun damage, even with genitalia fully on display; yet those who were - obviously - gawkers - were given a free ride.

It is a new security company and, perhaps, some instruction as to the point and intent of the 'you must be nude' rule - to stop the gawker - and some advice about common sense might help!!

I do wonder why this group of four were given a free ride though....


Did you talk with Kevin Levee, Donna Grant, or Lorna Brammer about this? If not, perhaps you should have?

I think this is the kind of stuff they want to hear about.

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Did you talk with Kevin Levee, Donna Grant, or Lorna Brammer about this? If not, perhaps you should have?

I think this is the kind of stuff they want to hear about.


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In addition to that discussion with management, I have found that asking the bar staff to have a word with security about the disruption goes a lot further than a direct discussion with the person or a direct discussion with security. Using that approach, it looks like that the Hedo staff is taking action rather than a guest (which could have potential huge dangers).

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Ah the consistency of the inconsistency of the guards at Hedo...makes so many of us roll our eyes, sneer, go crazy, and enact all sorts of behaviors depending on the moment and the perceived ill.

A shame all of it has to occur at all--but it's been going on like this from day one at Hedo. Doesn't make it right/wrong...just is.


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One of the ladies who was upset said she was going to make an official complaint, so I left that in her hands Lyle.

It all comes down to a proper training briefing, in my opinion, and common sense - which is not always in great supply there!!! confused

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I've been reading about this same issue (Is the prude side clothing optional now?) for what, some 15 to 20 years now? The answer is "It depends!"

I've been there when the prude side was clearly nude, and when it was clothed. I've been there when the nude side was "sorta" nude and folks clothed were accepted, then other times when the guards shooed them off, "You must be nude!"

Is it nude or is it clothing optional depends on the time you are there, whether Mars aligns with Venus, and what party is or is not going on.

About the only CONSTANT is, you can be NUDE NUDE NUDE all you want on the NUDE side!! So WHY go to the "clothing optional side?" Makes no damn sense to me.

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Bob, you comment related to Hedo history is, of course, correct. The new owner, however, have changed prude beach status into officially clothing optional. Confirmed by their website: http://www.hedonism.com/accommodations/ and http://www.hedonism.com/hedo-life/

It a good thing

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We like to be nude on the clothing optional side when the party on the nude side gets to be a little too much for our taste.

I hope that made sense.

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You may now wear a t-shirt if you have a sunburn/skin issue. That was a brand new policy handed down about 2 weeds ago to security, per the supervisor.

Genitals MUST be exposed however.

That's what they said.


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So now it's a Shirt Cocking and Daisy Ducks tolerant resort? Very progressive. laugh



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Bob asks why.
Several reasons.
Rooms on the C/O side are still cheaper than on the Nude side.
The beach area is more tranquil and you won't find bunches of chairs blocked off for a group as sometimes happens on the nude side.
I like the old style blacktop walk up to the main dining area better than the slippery tile walk around the gym.

And we still get over to the nude pool zone each afternoon...

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We have been longtime hardcore nudists and per our experience, we prefer the clothing optional setting where you can meet other great people who for one reason or another are not into the nudist thing or in many cases a couple is mixed where the guy may be naked and the girl is not or viceversa or she is just topless. My wife says that it is just me who hates rules or the extremes, clothed or nudity mandatory is some sort of restriction in one way or another. I do understand that some nude people may feel uncomfortable when clothed people are around and therefore the need for the nude side, but the clothing optional side is perfect for the cases I explained before as well for curious people wanting to live the experience but yet undecided and exploring it first before taking everything off.
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